I never even told him this, but I remember that Eminem came into the studio when we made Moment of Clarity, which he produced, on The Black Album, Jay said. So heres Eminem. Its 2003, I think The Eminem Show had come out, and he was, like, the biggest rapper in the world he sold, like, 20 million records worldwide or some ridiculous number. But when he came to the studio, I remember I hugged him and I could feel that he had on a bulletproof vest. I couldnt imagine being that successful. I mean, hes a guy who loves rap and wanted to be successful his whole career. Then he finally gets it, and theres this dark cloud over him.